About Me

I (Prestige Obsessed) graduated from high school in 2010 and went to attend Drexel's 7 year BS/MD program (Drexel undergrad and Drexel Med). After finishing med school, I went on to do a year of preliminary internal medicine at Hahenmann University Hospital (now defunct) and diagnostic radiology residency at ??? program (will reveal where ??? is as I want to keep my anonymity). 

Here are my high school stats. 
GPA: 3.95 unweighted 4.25 weighted
SAT: 2270 (730 Critical Reading, 770 Math, 770 Writing)
No ACT
SAT II Math (IIC): 790
SAT II Chemistry: 760
AP Biology: 5
AP Chemistry: 5
AP Calculus BC: 4
AP English Literature: 4
AP English Language: 4
AP Chinese Language: 5
AP U.S. History: 5
IB Program
Class Rank: 9 out of 620
Extracurriculars: Usual volunteering stuff, tennis, orchestra, but nothing special. NOTE: This is where you DON'T want to be like me. I regret not doing anything special during my high school years, and it cost me. Have some unique activities.


Prestige Pursuit was a fellow Drexel BS/MD student. His stats:
GPA: 3.91 unweighted
SAT: 2260 (730 Critical Reading, 780 Math, 750 Writing)
No ACT
SAT II Math (IIC): 800
SAT II Chemistry: 800
SAT II Biology (M): 740
AP Biology: 4
AP Chemistry: 5
AP Calculus AB: 5
AP Calculus BC: 5
AP English Language: 5
AP Psychology: 5
AP Spanish Language: 3
AP U.S. History: 3
AP Physics B: 5
Extracurriculars: Usual volunteering (convalescent homes, relief foundations etc). Private/peer tutoring. U.S. National Chemistry Olympiad. Marching Band (Drum Major)/Concert Band (trumpet)/Jazz Band (trumpet). School Musical. California Scholarship Federation (CSF: school club, Vice President).

Prestige Pursuit: As you can see, we aren't your "genius status" applicants. We're just two regular students who put in our best efforts in high school to get to where we wanted. Also, as a side note, to be perfectly honest, these kinds of things don't really matter much when you're actually in college. So don't worry too much about not comparing up with other applicants or anything.

67 comments:

  1. o wow. love ur gpa/ subject test scores.
    i have a 3.3225 gpa right now but i plan on bringing it up to a 3.6-.65 by the end of the year.
    i have some amazing ECc but i was wondering how much does gpa compare to as to ur ECs, or maybe ur SAT? because i realized last year that i have had a tough course load the past 2 years which is why my gpa is literaly dead(i am a junior now) i will have a total of 11-13 ap's by the end of graduating hs and should have a decent 2250-2350 by this march":D

    also by anychance did u apply to RSI/AMC med program? thats one of the few i really wanna get into. also

    i don't know if u added this but there is a sophie davis med program specific for new york. i would link you to it but i am on my phone.

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  2. Hey,
    Your blog is amazing.
    I was just wondering if you know where i should consider applying if my GPA is low, but everything else is good?

    ACT: 33
    SAT II Math: 800
    SAT II Biology: 760
    GPA: 3.5 unweighted 3.8 weighted
    Class Rank: class doesnt rank

    My EC's however, are decent to good. I've been volunteering at a center for kids with special needs since sixth grade, and I went abroad and through connections was able to take bp, dilate eyes, diagnose (though my diagnosis didnt count) patients. This is in addition to the standard two varsity sports, classes outside of school, piano, hospital volunteering, internship, etc.

    Where do you think i should try? I did apply to siena, and SBU, which is where i REALLY want to go, but any other ones?

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  3. Hey, your stats looks pretty decent, although GPA looks a bit low. I would apply to any programs that you can still apply to (deadline in January or after).

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  4. I would suggest Virginia Commonwealth University. It's a pretty decent program that has a lot of emphasis on volunteering. I don't think the deadline is over yet.

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  5. Hi. I am currently a junior and am interested in the BS/MD program. As of now, my gpa at the end of junior year is 4.14 weighted and I think around the 3.85 unweighted. My rank at school is in the top 2.7 percent. However, my weakest area is the ACT. I currently have a 25 and I will be taking it again. I have never tried the SAT and so am thinking about taking a shot at that as well. I am preparing hard over the summer in hopes of reaching the 30's for the ACT. I am currently an IB student and I have received a 5/7 in IB Spanish SL, a 5 in AP Psych, and a 3 in English Lang/Comp. I have also volunteered at the hospital, nursing homes, our local boys & girls club, a local food pantry, and will have over a 100 hours of service and over 80 hours of these are related to the medical field. So, can you please let me know what my chances are at the B.S/M.D program - perhaps even advice on what to do next? I understand that you can not obviously guarantee anything as far as my admission into a combined program, but any info would be greatly appreciated.

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  6. Hello. I am glad to hear that you are interested in BS/MD programs. I will try to address each point that you brought up.

    - GPA: Your GPA certainly isn't terrible. But also know that most schools don't really look at weighted GPA's. Any ranking <5% in your school class is pretty much as good as you can ask for, so this will help you. But also keep in mind that your competing applicants applying to these BS/MD programs have about an AVERAGE of 3.75-3.85 (depending on the school), so there certainly will be people with a higher GPA than you applying to the same programs.
    - SAT/ACT: A 25 on the ACT is a bit low, but I am glad to hear you are going to try again. Best of luck. To be competitive you want AT LEAST a 33; most schools even have an ACT minimum of 31-32, so you should take to into serious consideration your next ACT examination attempt. For the SAT, I wouldn't recommend taking it if you've never had any prior prep or experience for it. It would be very difficult in such little time this summer to make a successful attempt (especially if you're also preparing for the ACT), but if you feel like you at least want to try it, ask some of your friends who have taken it to give you an overview (there is also plenty of info online). If you want numbers, most school require AT LEAST a 2100; to stay competitive you'd like 2200+. Don't think too much about it though; these scores are only numbers on your application and only matter as far as getting you an interview.
    - SAT II's: You didn't mention any SAT subject tests, but most schools require at least two tests, one being Math IIC. If you haven't taken any I highly suggest that you take it the next chance you get. You also want to look into taking the Chemistry subject test and/or the Biology subject test.
    - AP/IB: It's good that you are in the IB program; that is definitely a plus. However, if these are the only other AP classes you have outside of your IB curriculum, you'd want to sign up for some AP sciences in your senior year. Most programs might have class requirements of at least having taken Chemistry, Biology, and Physics, but you'll have to read specifically for each program. I don't know what IB classes you took, but you definitely want to have the sciences in there. Regardless, there is very little we can do about this aspect of your application at this point. Sorry man.
    - Extracurriculars: You have a lot of volunteering and outside commitments lined up, and this will look very nice. I'd suggest embellishing this portion of your application. However, are any of these EC's leadership positions? If you don't have much leadership positions, it'd be a little harder to explain what you've been committing your outside time to. Again, I'm not sure what you can do left with the little time you have, but don't stress out too much about missing some of these things. Emphasize your positives.

    What to do next: Compile a list of potential schools that you are genuinely interested in and would be serious about looking into. I don't know what your plans are for undergrad, but you also want to consider some back-up (safety) schools. After you've picked out your schools, start working on your essays and applications as soon as you can! Use your resources and get help from the people around you.

    Your chances: Depending on how your application comes out (including recommendations), I'd say you'd definitely have a chance of getting into at least one school. But apply widely; I'd say at least 15-20 schools (I know it's ridiculously expensive, but there's no other way).

    Hope that helps. Let me know if you have more questions. Best of luck to you.

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  7. I am a rising junior and extremely interested in getting into a BS/MD program. For the most part, I'd like to get into a program that does not have requirements for the MCAT (and GPA). I'd like to know what my "chances" of getting into a BS/MD program are and how I would compare to other applicants.

    Here are my stats (though some are projected since I haven't finished junior, senior year and am yet to take the SAT)

    GPA: uw - ~3.9/3.95 by end of sr. year
    w - ~4.25 by end of sr. year

    SAT I: ~2250
    SAT II: Biology E - 710 (I plan to retake it or maybe take Bio. M and get 750+)
    I also plan to take Math II and Physics

    >I know many colleges would like a Chemistry Subject SAT but I will only be taking Chemistry in my senior year so...is it alright if I don't take the Subject SAT for Chemistry or is it better for me to self-study Chem. before I take the course so that way I can take the Subject SAT for Chem. before College Apps. are due?

    EC by end of sr. year:
    - Red Cross for 3 years (hopefully with a leadership role in sr. year)
    - Speech and Debate for 4 years (Debate captain soph. year, Varsity Debate Captain Jr. year, hopefully VP or Pres. sr. year)
    - Volunteering at local Hospital (~200 hours by the end of HS)
    - Classical Dance all through high school, started when I was in 4th grade
    - Volunteer @ Dance to teach younger students in 9th and 10th grade ~100 hours(may or may not continue in 11th and 12th grade)
    - California Scholarship Federation for 4 years by end of sr. year(except Freshman year, for only one semester)
    - hopefully get into NHS for jr. and sr. years
    - Planning to start my own volunteer/raise funds for nonprofit orgs. club

    AP Classes:9th grade - none
    10th grade - AP World History - 3 on AP test :(
    11th grade - AP Physics, AP Literature, AP US History
    12th Grade - AP Language, AP Statistics, AP Gov./AP Spanish
    (hopefully I'll only score 4's and 5's on AP tests in the future)

    >I was also thinking about self-studying AP Biology during my junior year...what are your thoughts about this? If I took the AP test on my own for AP Bio in May, would the colleges give me credit for the course or not?

    The BS/MD programs I'm mainly looking at now are UCSD, Brown PLME, Northwestern HPME, U. Pitt., Rice/Baylor, USC(If the program still exists), and maybe U. Rochester.

    Please let me know what you think my chances are and what I could do to make myself a better applicant/candidate. Any advice about the application process, high school, etc. will be greatly appreciated. Thanks again :)

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  8. and your blog is extremely helpful. i'm so happy i can find everything i'm looking for on this website rather than trying to spend a billion hours googling for reliable info. thanks for taking the time to put it together! :)

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  9. Dear LaPrincesa, I am glad to hear that you are extremely interested in applying to BS/MD programs! I will try my best to address each point you brought up.

    - No MCAT: On the home page of this blog, on the right side you will see a label called "No MCAT" that will take you to a list we compiled earlier about schools that do no require a MCAT exam once accepted into the program. Listed schools (as far as we know) are U. Pitt, VCU, U. Rochester, GWU, AMC, Brown, Northwestern, Baylor, and UMKC. However, I would recommend that you do not make this a determining factor for a school. Most programs that require you to take the MCAT during undergrad do so to ensure that you are still competitive with the regular applicants to that med school. If you are accepted into the program, you are most likely competent enough to pass their MCAT requirements. Don't worry too much about it. As for the GPA requirement, every program will have a GPA minimum that you will be required to maintain during your undergrad. Each program and undergrad will vary; make sure you read specifically into each program.

    - GPA: Your GPA is perfectly within the competitive range. As long as you continue to keep your grades up, you're right on track. Work hard your Junior year and it WILL pay off! Believe me. Your projected GPA is very decent to say the least; no issues here.

    - SAT's: Hope you're having fun studying this summer! I remember those days. You can see recommendations of SAT scores and test you should aim for the "Application Tips" page.

    Most schools require a minimum of 2100 for application, but you want a least a 2200 to stay competitive. If you're aiming for at least a 2250, you will be right on track. You didn't mention the ACT, but don't worry about it if you don't plan on taking it. Very, very few schools require the ACT as an application requirement.

    As for your subject tests, you will definitely want to try and raise your Math IIC score to an 800. Most programs require at least two subject tests, with one being Math IIC. IDEALLY, you do not want any of your scores to be lower than 750. Yes, schools would like to see Biology and Chemistry, but it'd be more advantageous to take the class (preferably AP level) in school and also have a grade and GPA to show for it, as opposed to simply having a SATII score for the subjects. I would advise taking an AP science (either Biology or Chemistry) in your Junior year in place of AP Physics, which you can move to your senior year. Keep in mind also that there is a fair number of programs out there that require you to have taken Biology, Chemistry, AND Physics (any level) classes to even apply. Read specifically into each school. With that said, try to aim for at least three subject tests by the end of your Junior year, with at least one of them being a science (probably Biology?) I know it costs a lot of money to take them, but there's no other way. Sorry.

    As for your AP scores, just try your best in the future! I didn't even take the AP World History class, and I got a 3 on AP U.S. History (I'm not a history person). Regarding self-studying and taking AP Biology yourself, yes, colleges will accept this. You just need to find a way for your school to allow you to do this (you can talk to your guidance counselor about this; use your resources!). But again, just like with the subject tests, I think colleges would like it better that you have the class and the grade for it.

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  10. LaPrincesa (cont.)


    - EC's: You have a sufficient number of EC's. Now you want to look into leadership roles in your Junior year (if it's not already too late). Try out for any leadership position as this will truly make your volunteering experience stand out. But make sure that you are genuinely interested and passionate about what you're doing! To be honest, that's what REALLY matters in the end. Scholarship applications will mainly be based on these experiences as well. Becoming a doctor is one thing, but make sure you're doing all this for yourself. =)

    The BS/MD programs you are looking at are top-tier, highly competitive schools. I understand that you are from California and what the competitive atmosphere in high school is like, because I am from California as well. These are certainly very excellent programs and I support you in applying to each one. But as with anybody, make sure you have back-up (safety) BS/MD schools as well. I don't know what you're plans are for undergrad, but you may also want to look into good undergrads to apply to as your back-ups (ie. the UC's).

    Hope that helps. I'm glad you found our blog helpful; please share it with all your friends as well! Let me know if you have more questions. Best of luck to you.

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  11. Oh by the way, you are correct. USC is no longer offering the Bacc/MD program.

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  12. I would take two AP sciences in junior year. This way the scores show up on your application. The courses you take senior year won't be as important as the courses you take junior year, so make sure you try your hardest next year. As for SAT's, 2250 is a good score to aim for. And as for the rest, it looks like you know what you're doing. Overall, if you actually achieve your goals, you have a great chance at getting into a BS/MD program.
    And try to apply to around 10-15 BS/MD. You will at least get into 2-3.

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  13. The only ap science my school will allow me to take junior year is ap physics. That's why I'm thinking of sells studying ap biology and taking the test for it in may. The way my school courses are set up is that we can only take 1 ap science course during high school. For ap bio and ap chem, they require that we finish both the basic courses of bio and chem. And for ap physics they require that we finished the basic level of physics and another basic science course in either chemistry or biology. My school gives us the basic science courses in the following order - physics, bio and chem. And there's no way to switch this order around. So say if I wanted to take ap bio or ap chem through school, I would have to wait until my senior year and colleges wouldn't get to see any of my scores for that course. I would have considered taking another ap science course over next summer, buy i was really hoping I could get some research experience next summer. If I do get some kind of research or shadowing opportunity, I won't have the time to take a course. I will only be taking basic chemistry in senior year. And my plans to take ap physics and hopefully self study ap bio during my junior year are probably going to stay the same. What are your suggestions about my situation - what is the best way to go around this and take the right course in regard to my school's requirements? Thanks for all of your help :)

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  14. Dear LaPrincesa,
    Ah. I see, I'm sorry I was not aware of your school's restrictions on AP science classes. In that case, I would think you have already thought out the best possible schedule you can have for yourself. Just keep in mind though, that when you are applying to BS/MD programs, there is a decent amount of schools that require you to have taken all three physical sciences (bio, chem, and physics; at any level) by the time you graduate, to be eligible to apply. If the case arises, you may also want to consider taking some of these classes outside of school, maybe at a local community college, for credit. Just ensure that the credit is transferable to other schools. As for your research/shadowing experience, it sounds like you're on top of things. So good job! Keep it up.

    As mentioned before, if you keep this up, AT LEAST you'll be able to get into 2-3 schools if you apply to somewhere between 10-15 schools. I would suggest start looking at some school profiles and see what other requirements or suggestions so you don't miss out on them! Also make sure you apply to some back-up (safety) schools, and not just the top-tier programs.

    Hope that helps, best of luck to you.

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  15. okie dokie thanks for the advice :)and you mentioned earlier that if i self-studied a course and took an AP test for it, without doing the course in school or at a community college, colleges would still give me credit for it? also one other question - i won't be taking basic chemistry until my senior year and some bs/md programs, like northwestern, require a chem subject sat. i won't be able to take a chem. subject sat UNLESS i self-study next summer and take it in oct. next fall before apps. are due - should i consider doing that, because i wouldn't have taken any kind of chem. course and would study everything on my own. Or should I only apply to programs which do not have such a requirement?

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  16. Yes, if you take the AP exam and earn a qualifying score, schools will accept the score for credit. You just need to find a way to take the test. =)

    As for the SATII Chemistry test, if you feel confident enough to take the test on your own, by all means do so! Also remember that you can always cancel your scores at the test if you don't feel like you did well.

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  17. How do you get ready for college applications? I'm going to be a rising junior but I'm in treated in how to just start looking at them. Do colleges send you the applications or do you find them online or what? And the Rastas- how exactly do you deal with those? Do you need to have teachers check over them to make sure they're good, or are you not allowed to do that? I wanted to get a shadowing opportunity this summer but I looked into it too late so the doctors I contacted said there weren't any positions available. One of the doctors said I couldn't shadow him buy he would help me with college applications...I'm sure he would prove helpful, but I'm not sure with exactly what. Should I have a list of questions for him or something? I don't have any essays written or anything because I'm only a junior now...should I look at. Ollege apps. Now and start practicing? And I can't ask for a lett of recc. From that doctor because I really don't know him. So what would you suggest I do? I'm pretty clueless :O

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  18. Oh autocorrect is terrible! " in treated" was supposed to be " interested" and "Rastas" was supposed to be "essays" and "buy" was "but" and "Ollege" was "College" sorry about that!

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  19. Hi I'm a junior, going to be senior this fall and was interested in the Bs/MD program. I think I have a list of colleges but still not sure about it.. I don't know which programs to apply because some are just way out tehre while others I'm not sure about my chances into them.. what programs do you recommend I apply to and my chances at getting into them thanks! my stats are below

    Stats
    GPA nonweighted-3.75 GPA Weighted-4.40
    SAT 2140 (Critical Reading 650 Math 780 Writing 710)

    SAT II Chem 780 Bio 710 Math 800

    APs
    human Geography 5
    European History 5
    biology 5
    chemistry 5
    macroeconomics 5
    microeconomics 5
    US History 5
    Language and Composition 3
    Calculus AB 5

    Extra Curriculars
    Beach cleanup volunteer, varsity tennis, helps tennis camps, able to shadow an orthopedic surgeon abroad, VP of National Beta Club, Photographer of IMPACT club

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  20. For the rising Junior Anonymous:

    College Essay/Application: As a rising Junior, I'd say your primary focus right now should be on your grades, SAT's/ACT, and school activities (get involved this year!) in general right now. But to answer your questions:
    - College Applications: If you really are interested in looking into college applications now, it's always good to start early! Look into schools you are interested in applying too and read up on their requirements and what not, such as class requirements, SAT/ACT scores, which subject tests you need etc. Once you have a list of schools you are interested in, when you are ready to apply (around summer/fall for your rising senior year) you can find their application online usually (or through CommonApp). Fill it out from there and that's how you apply to a school! But for now, I'd really say don't worry about these things. The application portion is not an issue when the time comes.

    - College Essay/Letter of Recommendations: By no means do you have to start preparing or writing your college application essays right now. Like I said, this year should be spent focusing and trying your best in school. Get involved with things at school! You should try new things and gain experience, which then you can write about in your essays. Your essays should be about YOU as a person and how you've come to learn and grow up to the point where you believe you are the right candidate for whichever school you're applying to. Not only do you want to try hard in studying, but connect with people this year as well, both friends and teachers (especially your guidance counselor!). If you do this, naturally Letters of Rec's will not be an issue either. =)

    - Shadowing: By no means do you have to think that shadowing or volunteering at a hospital is REQUIRED. I didn't do it in high school. It's good that you are being active and searching out opportunities in the community, but don't freak out because you think you've missed this chance. Find something else you can involve yourself in this summer! But make sure you spend your time doing something you're honestly passionate about. This will really show colleges that you can commit to something you love, because, quite frankly, a career in medicine is long and often times very difficult. They need to know that you have it in you to come out as a good doctor at the end of the day.

    All in all, you still have time, but it's definitely good you're looking into this already. Try you're best in school. Best of luck to you. =)

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  21. For the rising Senior Anonymous:

    Hello there! I am glad that you are interested in applying to BS/MD programs. Here are my comments for your breakdowns:

    - GPA: Your GPA is a bit low. Keep in mind most programs do not look at weighted GPA's. For schools, this is usually about the average GPA to apply, so there will certainly be competing applicants with a higher GPA than yours. But don't sweat it too much, a 3.75 is most definitely still within the competing range for some BS/MD programs.

    - SAT's: Your SAT stands in about the same place as your GPA. It's not outstanding, but it passes most minimum requirements for application. It is definitely within the competing range, but, on average, the competing applicants applying to these BS/MD programs have 2200+. Your SATII's are pretty good. They meet the requirements for almost all the programs, and you have two sciences the required Math IIC. All are decent scores.

    I'd like to make a note here that your GPA and your SAT scores are only numbers to the schools, and only matter as much as getting you an interview to the program. So don't overthink or stress about it. =)

    - AP's: Your class schedules are great. This is pretty much what they are looking for. The only thing I would mention is that you may want to consider taking Physics (any level) your Senior year, if it's not already too late. I say this because it is simply a requirement for a good number of programs that you have taken all three physical sciences (bio, chem, and physics) to apply. An alternative, if you can't get the class at school, is to take it concurrently at a local community college. Just make sure that the credits are transferable.

    - EC's: Your EC's are pretty good as well. All I can say is, as you're working on your apps/essays, try to incorporate as much as what you did and really talk about what you've learned and gained from it. The schools want to know what you've been spending your free time on during high school and if you really committed yourself to it, even if it isn't medically related. Write about something that inspired you or that you found passion in doing, because, truthfully, that's what your life is going to be about. =)

    Overall: I'd say if you applied to about 10 low to middle tier BS/MD programs, you'd get into 1-3. I wouldn't suggest applying to "too many" top tier programs such as Brown, Northwestern, or Rice. I don't know where you are from, but definitely look into Eastcoast programs such as Temple U, AMC (and affiliate schools), and Drexel Med (Drexel U, Lehigh, Villanova). There are also some pretty good midwest programs such as UMKC (six year program) and St. Louis U. On the home page of this blog, there are labels on the right side of the page, and you can find some profiles of schools by clicking on the Easier BS/MD or Medium BS/MD.

    Hope that helped you. Have fun with your apps this year. Best of luck to you. =)

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  22. :] Your blog is awesome.. because you two are awesome! :] Smartest people in the program... after me of course. haha jk :]

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  23. HiI was the rising senior.. i posted on July 21, 2011 4:42 PM. I wasn't sure about how universities such as Drecxel Med program worked. Do I apply to either one of those schools or Drexel directly and it will direct me to either school? And if I apply to all three do I get a better chance at getting in? thanks

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  24. Usually med schools with multiple undergraduates that are affiliated with it, you would apply to each undergraduate separately. They are usually counted as separate programs altogether. However, if you get an interview from more than one program that goes to the same med school, you only have to do the interview once. As for your chances, it is the same as if you are applying to more programs in general. The more you apply to, the more chances you have of getting into a program.

    Getting into med school is prestigious enough in itself. Don't get too caught up in reputations or names. Whichever school you end up going to, you're going to enjoy yourself there if you choose to! =)

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  25. Dear nire. Thank you for taking the time to visit our blog! I'm glad you think it is awesome. Please share it with any friends and/or siblings that might be interested! =)

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  26. hi! I just wanted to thank you first for this blog. it's really great. can you just give me some tips and some programs you think I have a pretty good shot at getting into with my stats?
    GPA UW:3.77
    SAT: 2270 (superscore) 2250 not
    ECs: president of two clubs...shadowing doctor...name on 3+ scientific papers possibly one in a very big name scientific journal.

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  27. SAT2: 760 on physics 800 math level 2 750+ on chem (haven't taken it)
    5 on ap calc ab going to take 4 ap/ib courses in my senior year 2 of which are ap sciences

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  28. Hi I was the Anonymous rising junior concerned about apps and essays. I had a few more quick questions:
    - there was some doctor that said he would help with college apps later this Sumer so should I email him back and ask for his help? And if so, with what? Or should I just leave apps and stuff for next year?
    - do school counselors write letters of recommendation? Because in my school, we have about 2700 kids and are facing severe budget cuts so they've cut down the number of counselors we have to only two. My counselor personally doesn't know me now- should I try to get to know her? Because I'm nit sure what the chances of her remembering me later on.
    - I'm going to be taking ap physics, ap us history and ap literature in addition to basic courses in Spanish 3 and precalculus. I'm also thinking about self studying ap biology and ap chemistry on my own and then take the ap tests in may. I know it's probably not advisable to self study any aps especially, two ap sciences in the same year. But my question was whether it would be a doable thing- could I get a 4 or higher on all of my ap exams if I self study two of them? I'm willing to put in the work but I'm still not sure if it's the right choice. My school doesn't allow me to take community college courses for credit so self study is the only option I have.
    Thanks!

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  29. Dear Anonymous July 22, 2011 7:41 PM,

    Your SAT score looks pretty good, but your GPA looks pretty weak. And you don't have that many AP courses taken. I would check out the easier BS/MD programs like Albany Med, St. Louis, or Drexel. Good lucky with applying.

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  30. Dear Anonymous July 22, 2011 7:41 PM,

    I agree with Prestige Obsessed. What you can do right now is try to get good letters of rec's ready and work out good application essays. Check out the Application Tips page for some advice.

    I would also recommend Temple U and maybe UMKC as well for you. If you apply to around 10 schools of this level you should get into at least one program. Best of luck to you. =)

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  31. Dear Anonymous rising Junior, regarding your questions:

    - Doctor: If a doctor is willing to help you out, by all means ask him as many questions as you can! Find out what his job is all about and if this is what you want to do. Using resources always helps you better understand if becoming a doctor is what you truly want to do. I would take the time right now more for finding out what this profession is all about. I'm not sure what he can do directly to help you for your apps (especially at this point), but it isn't against the rules to have him write a letter of rec for you. It just doesn't qualify for any of the criteria that schools might ask for in letters of recs. Again, it's good that you're thinking about these things right now already, but you certainly don't need to worry about it right now. You still have plenty of time for letters and apps.
    - School Counselor: Yes, I can almost guarantee you that your school counselor will be writing you a letter of recommendation next fall. It is a requirement for most schools anyways. If you have 2700 kids in your class and only two counselors, all the more reason for you to standout and get to know your counselor better! Find him during office hours, or schedule an appointment to meet with him about questions. If she sees you being proactive about finding information and using your resources, she'll most likely remember you better and have good things to say about you. =)
    - AP class: Like I mentioned, your Junior year schedule looks pretty good already. However, I don't see the need to push yourself to prepare for BOTH AP Bio and AP Chem on top of what you're already scheduled to do in school. If you REALLY wanted to, self-studying and taking the AP Bio test would be "do-able", in my opinion. But to prepare for all three AP Bio, AP Chem, and AP Physics by May and to do well on all three exams, is quite a task at hand, not to mention quite unnecessary. I would highly advise against this. If you do choose to self-study AP Bio this year with AP Physics at school, then take AP Chem your senior year, this is perfectly alright. Don't feel like you need to have all three classes done by Junior year. And furthermore, don't feel that you even NEED to have all three classes as well. There are programs out there that don't require all three. For example, I took AP Chem my Sophomore year, AP Bio my Junior year, and AP Physics B my Senior year, which is when I was applying. Some schools didn't even get a chance to see that I was taking AP Physics when I was applying (they only saw it on the midyear report).

    Hope that helps. Glad you're visiting out blog! If you enjoyed it, please share it with your friends who might also be interested. Thanks, and best of luck to you in Junior year. =)

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  32. Thanks again:) it's the anonymous rising junior again and I had one other question. Some schools that I'd like to apply to such as northwestern require or recommend to take the subject sat for chemistry. I haven't even taken the basic course for chem yet but I want to take the chem subject sat before college apps come around. That's what gave me the idea to self study ap chem. Because if I'm going to study for the chem subject test anyways and much of the same material is covered on the ap test, I figured I might as well take the ap test too. What would you suggest for me? Ty!

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  33. Well...to say that the material covered on the Chem AP test and the SATII Subject test is the same is somewhat questionable. The same topics are covered, but the depth of the material is vastly different. The Chem SATII Subject test is designed mainly for high school students to take after their Chemistry Honors class. If you prepare on that level, you will have a difficult time on the AP exam. However, if you feel that you can prepare all the AP level material and know that you can do well on the AP Chem exam, you will ace the SATII Chem test with a breeze.

    Long story short: The AP Chem exam is harder than the Chem SATII Subject test. Preparing for just the SATII test would be a lot easier, and very do-able. Preparing for the AP exam would take quite a lot of work (because of the amount of material it covers), but you would definitely be ready for the SATII test if you prepared well.

    You could always self-study Chem, then do AP Bio in school your senior year as well. =) Do what you think would work best for you.

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  34. When and where do you find the common app?

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  35. What is the best way to do college apps? Is there a sort of timeline to follow? And how do you organize getting done with all of your essays and letters of recommendation and application details? How did you manage and what should I do? Like...do your parents and teachers help you? Can parents read over essays? How many people should ores tread your essay. And what's the point of early decision or early admission to schools? And what's the difference between early admission and early decision? Isn't there like no point because it doesn't help you get into that school, necessarily and you just have less time to turn in your app? When is the earliest to start working on college apps-like when are they released? Thanks I know I asked way too many questions but I'm obviously pretty clueless!

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  36. CommonApp is a website that a lot of schools are associated with, which makes it easier for you turn in your applications because they make the applications more uniform. Visit www.commonapp.org for more information. The best way to go about your college apps is to start early! Try to look for applications as soon as they come out so you can start your essays as early as you can (usually varies from August-October). You can search on google previous years' essay topics so you can get a good idea about what you want to write about. The essay is your chance to tell schools who you are, and why you're a good candidate for their school. Edit it as much as you like, and have as many people read over it as much as you like. Start searching up schools that interest you as well to see what each school requires, specifically. The list of BS/MD schools can all be found on this website!

    Early decision (ED) is a binding application saying that if you are accepted to a school for ED, you are committed to going there, regardless of your regular admissions results. Early admission (EA) is non-binding, meaning you're not committed to going to that school, but they have already accepted you. ED and EA both have earlier deadlines and earlier results than regular admissions, which results come out around March/April. Keep in mind though, not all schools have ED/EA, and you can only apply to one school as well for any early applications. I am not sure if it helps your chances get into a school better or not, but I would think that it tells a school that you are more interested in this school more than a regular admission. However, it also possible (maybe even common) that people get rejected from early admissions, but still get accepted when they reapply during regular admissions. You can find more information about this on each specific school's website.

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  37. I'm sorry, the non-binding early admission is more commonly called "early action" (EA).

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  38. Would you care to help me out?

    My current stats:
    4.0 GPA UW, 2060 SAT score [ :( ], IB Diploma, HL Chemistry, HL Physics, HL English, HL Italian, SL Psych, SL Mathematics
    -School doesn't offer ECs.
    -Won Bausch and Lomb Science Award
    -Principal's list of academic commendation throughout high school

    ECs:

    Extensive lab work since the summer of 2010. This year I plan on submitting to the Intel STS and Siemens competitions. My research should be competitive. The issue is, it is not medical/biological research. Is that bad?

    A LOT of soccer, could get recruited over the next few months. Probably at the D3 Level. Captain of JV and possibly captain of V soccer.

    Leadership position and founding member of a new Athletics council at my school. We're planning on getting partnerships with big organizations to organize clothing drives and service projects. Should be fun.

    SHADOWING. Shadow Neurosurgeons and Interventional Radiologist. Will probably have ~100 hours by the time I'm done if not more. The Neuros are giving me the opportunity to work on a paper.

    Volunteering. Over 150 Hrs of service, including 100+ in hospital.

    Where do I stand? I know my SAT is what brings me down, by I think I can do much better. I am looking at REMS and Rice/Baylor specifically. Any additional tips?

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  39. Dear Scott,

    Thank you for you interest in applying to BS/MD programs! I will attempt to address each point that you have brought up:

    Current stats: 4.0 and IB student. Your current stats are spectacular. This will not only get you into BS/MD programs, but it also makes you competitive with Ivy league schools as well. As you mentioned, though, your SAT score is a bit low. I am assuming that you are a rising Senior, so you do still have time to retake the SAT in October. Try your best! If you can bring this up to a 2250+, you'll get into a few decent programs.

    EC's: Your EC's are not exactly distinguishing, but your other awards and participations help make up for it. Your lab work certainly does not need to be medically related, just make sure that it's something you're really passionate about doing! You seem to be well involved in your school as well, so keep it up! I wouldn't worry too much about this portion of your application. =)

    Shadowing: It is good that you are getting out there and seizing opportunities like this. Colleges like that. Take this chance to also find out what this profession is really all about! If you get the chance, try shadowing different types of doctors as well. But keep in mind, many competing applicants are also doing the same thing, so try to distinguish yourself in some way. Same goes for your volunteering.

    REMS and Rice/Baylor are all top-tier BS/MD programs. I support you in applying to these programs (additionally, you could look into Northwestern's and Brown's program). However, I would advise that you also apply to medium level programs, including back-up (safety) schools. If you follow those guidelines, out of 10 programs, you should get into at least 2-3 programs.

    Right now, I would recommend looking into getting letters of recs ready from your school, and begin thinking about your essay topics.

    Hope that helps, and best of luck to you! =)

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  40. Thanks for the quick reply! If it's alright with you, I just have a few more questions.

    In terms of recommendations, I have a plan, but I don't know if it's a good plan as of yet.

    I will get:
    1 from a counselor
    1 from my chem teacher
    1 from my english teacher
    1 from my lab leader
    1 from a doctor I'm shadowing

    Would you say that's a good plan?

    Also, if I managed to get my name on a paper, as co-author or something, would that put me in a good pool of applicants for the two programs I mentioned?

    Last, don't worry, I love all of the things I do :D


    ***** When I said school doesn't offer ECs I meant school doesn't offer APs. I also didn't include some of my more minor ECs.*** Sorry
    To be honest, I feel like the undergrad experience is just as important, and I like Rice and Rochester more than NU and Brown (I'm not "Prestige Obsessed" :P).

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  41. Dear Scott,

    Your plans for your recommendations look good! Although, you probably don't need that many (The ones from your lab leader and the doctor may be extraneous), but if you feel comfortable by including them, by all means, do so. Just know that for most schools, three recommendations are more than enough.

    As for the publishing, that most definitely puts you in a good light. However, how much it affects your chances varies from program to program. Some programs are more research oriented and may look more on your paper, while others may see it as a good dedication of your interest in your free time. So it's really hard to say how much it can help you, but it definitely helps you a lot. Rice and Rochester both look for fairly well rounded students (Rochester may be a little more research oriented), but like I mentioned before, both schools are very, very top-tier, where in some years, less than 1% of the applicants were accepted. Off the top of my head, I remember one year for Rice/Baylor around 1000 applicants only 15 got accepted (I don't know any numbers for Rochester at the moment, sorry).

    I like that you have specific goals set, but definitely don't get caught up in one school. Undergrad is important, but it doesn't dictate where you end up in the future. Keep an open mind knowing that you'll enjoy wherever you end up going. =)

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  42. Which schools could you apply to without having a high sat score (2200+) and have a fairly reasonable chance of getting into? And I'm so worried about my sat score - it isn't going past 2050, what do I do to raise it since I'm taking the test in October?

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  43. Dear Anonymous,

    mhm...well the SAT is definitely a factor the schools look at when determining which students they should give an interview to, so it is important to try your best to get the highest score you can. At the very least try to improve your Critical Reading and Math sections, because there are some schools out there that have score minimums only on those combined (like St. Louis University).

    The only thing I can suggest at the moment is try your best on your October test to aim for a 2100. You still have time to study! Schools that I would recommend would be Drexel Med (and all its undergrads), St. Louis University, Temple Med (and all its undergrads), and Albany Med (and its 3 undergrads). Apply to as many as you can, and if you get an interview for any of the schools, don't even think about your SAT scores anymore! Make sure you can present yourself well enough to secure a spot and you'll get in a program. Hope that helps, and best of luck to you. =)

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  44. Random question about college admissions in general... i posted on this before my stats are below.. but i was just wondering if being in tennis 3 years rather than 4 would be a dealbreaker.. i think it shouldn't matter but I'm not sure because maybe colleges are just that picky.. thanks

    Senior Year Schedule

    1 Physics
    2 AP Gov (1st semester) Calc BC (2nd semester)
    3 teacher aide
    4 AP Literature
    5 AP Psychology
    6 tennis?

    Stats
    GPA nonweighted-3.75 GPA Weighted-4.40
    SAT 2140 (Critical Reading 650 Math 780 Writing 710)

    SAT II Chem 780 Bio 710 Math 800

    APs
    human Geography 5
    European History 5
    biology 5
    chemistry 5
    macroeconomics 5
    microeconomics 5
    US History 5
    Language and Composition 3
    Calculus AB 5

    Extra Curriculars
    Beach cleanup volunteer, tennis (3 or 4 years?), helps tennis camps, shadow an orthopedic surgeon 432 hours abroad, Shadow Dentist 102 hours, community service at leprosy village, VP of National Beta Club (Sopohmore Only), Photographer of IMPACT club, NHS, California Scholarship Federation (All years), Empire League Scholar (3 years), Empire League runner-up doubles team JV, Volunteered a fundraiser to raise money for spine disease research.

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  45. Well it's really hard to say what colleges will like. As for tennis, personally, I would say that it doesn't matter too much. Don't worry about the details. Sometimes college admissions really do come down to randomness and chance. You can't ever isolate a single factor why someone gets into a program or not. This goes for college admissions in general. =) Hope that helps.

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  46. hey, is the UMKC program still only open to Missouri residents? I can't find anything on their website about it, but there report a GPA average for both accepted students from the state and accepted students outside of the state. I'm assuming that means I can apply (I'm from PA). Also, what does it mean when you highlighted the medical school name red instead of the undergrad school? Or vice versa?

    Thanks

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  47. Hello Maheen,

    The UMKC program is open to out of state residents, you are correct in that you can apply there! However, you should know that for the UMKC program they accept a very limited number of students out of state (I've heard numbers as low as 10 out of state people. But, yes, out of state applicants are allowed.

    The red medical school would mean that the programs associated with it are only available for In-state applicants. For some of the programs, only some schools have an in-state requirement and therefore would be red, while other programs that link to the same medical school do not have that requirement.

    Hope that helps! =)

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  48. Hi, my name is Sam. I am interested in applying to many BA/MD programs this year (about 17).

    I was just wondering what you think of my stats.
    Also, what schools do you think I have a chance at?

    GPA: 4.00 Unweighted, 5.04 Weighted
    Class Rank: 5/635
    ACT: 31
    APs: AP Calculus BC-5
    AP Statistics- 4
    AP Environmental Science- 4
    AP Psychology- 5
    AP Government- 4
    (will be taking AP Chem, AP Bio, & AP English exams this upcoming year)
    Extracurriculars: I volunteer at a hospital, and I volunteering/job shadow at a doctor's office. I also volunteering at a daycare (I keep track of medical records and make sure sanitation is kept up, so this would be health related). Thus, I have 650+ total health related hours, and I have ~300 hours in other volunteer services (key club, beta club, national honor society, math honor society, science honor society, etc..).
    I have also done some research through these things called "honors projects" at my school. I have many leadership roles in my school (VP of Key Club, Student Ambassador, Science Honor Society Committee Member, Peer Mentor, Junior Marshall, etc.).

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  49. Please excuse my grammar errors. I guess I was typing too fast and didn't check for errors!

    -Sam

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  50. HI Prestige Obsessed and Pursuit. I went through your ads again today.
    You can thank me later. HAH. =]

    -E

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  51. Hi! First of all, I'd just like to say that your blog has been extremely helpful!
    I just completed my sophomore year and I'm faced with choosing my subject choices for IB.
    I've been thinking about taking Bio HL, Chem HL, Physics HL, Math SL, English SL, and Spanish SL.
    By taking all three sciences HL and no humanity, I'd be getting an irregular diploma. I want to take all three sciences because it would definitely help in college.
    Do you think this would affect my chances of getting into a good BS/MD program like Brown PLME, Penn State or Boston U's program?
    Do they really want you to be well rounded?
    I took Economics in my freshman and sophomore year, so I guess that'd count as a humanity?
    Thanks in advance!

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    1. Your choice of classes is great; I see no problem with it.

      However, I would not recommend IB. The number of colleges that accept IB credits is much lower than the ones that accept AP. If they do accept IB credits, the score requirement is much higher. Also, why would one take two years of the same class when one can do it in one?

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  52. Hi I was hoping you would tell me if I stand a chance for the HPME program at Northwestern University or the GPPA program at UIC

    Egyptian female (moved to the states in 8th grade)
    GPA: UW 4.73/5.00 Weighted: 5.22/5.00
    ACT: 33
    SAT II: Bio:710 and taking Chem, Math 2, and Physics(maybe) in October 2013
    AP taken:
    Sophomore year
    Calculus BC: 3
    World History: 3
    Junior Year
    English Language
    Biology (Scores are not out yet)
    AP courses will take Senior year:
    Chemistry, Physics C, Statistics, French (and am preparing for these classes over the summer)

    Science Courses taken: Honors Biology, honors Chemistry, Honors Physics, AP Biology, Exercise Physiology

    Extracurricular Activities:
    Science Olympiad 3 years (wasn't available in my freshman year school)
    Service Club 3 years (wasn't available in my freshman year school)
    Tutoring
    National Honor Society
    French National Honor Society
    French Club

    Leadership:
    Captain of Science Olympiad
    LINK, a program in my high school to lead incoming freshman and help them have a smooth transition into high school

    Volunteering:
    Tutoring middle school students
    Volunteer at Ann and Robert H. Lurie Children's Hospital

    Honors/Awards:
    High Honor Roll
    3rd place at Science Olympiad Regionals for Chemistry Lab event

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    1. I think you have a much better chance at GPPA than HPME.

      Your EC's are good but your scores a bit lower than average in terms of HPME standards.

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  53. Hello! I would just like to say that this website has taught me a lot about my future options. This website has also provided me a lot of opportunities to learn about BA/BS/MD programs but also about how to make myself a much stronger candidate for selection. With that being said, I was wondering if you can chance me for UConn's (first choice), Penn State's, and VCU's program? Hopefully this isn't a bother for you! Thank You So Much!

    Indian Male
    3.65/4.3 UW
    4.25/5.3 W
    Rank: 9/137
    SAT: 1850 (1270)
    ACT: Taking ACT soon, with the practice tests I am getting around a 31 (30.5)
    SAT II: I have taken 4 Tests, and they have all turned out to be not so great. . . my highest one being a 680 on Math II
    AP: Our school is a vocational high school (majoring in healthcare), we don't offer AP's but in certain courses we get college credits since we are affiliated with UMDNJ.

    Science Courses : Honors Biology, Honors Chemistry, Honors Physics, Medical Terminology I and II Honors, Dynamics of Healthcare I and II Honors, Anatomy and Physiology I and II Honors (gonna take), Introduction to Clinical Research, Nutrition Honors, Medical Math Honors, Health Assessment (don't offer honors)

    School Activities:
    HOSA (Health Occupations Students of America) Took my Biomedical Debate team to Nationals (2nd two times at States); Captain of Biomedical Debate Team 2 years
    Key Club 4 years, treasurer once
    Tutoring 4 years, manager of tutoring organization 1 year (job of assigning tutors to students who need help)
    Golf 4 years, JV Captain 3 years
    Basketball 3 years
    Cross Country 1 year
    Environmental Club 2 non-consecutive years, Treasurer 1 year
    National Honor Society and National Technical Honor Society
    Peer Leader 1 year, help rising freshman adjust to high school life

    Outside Activities:
    South Indian Drum, playing for 11 years; give concerts and won several competitions
    Sunday School for 11 years
    Travel, 4 years; lol i feel like this is just a "gap filler" but I have traveled a lot

    Healthcare Related Activites:
    Shadowed 2 physicians, one in a family practice and another in a pediatric setting
    Interned with a PT at a sports medicine center
    Worked as a cashier in a pharmacy in India over my freshman and junior summer
    Samaritan Homeless Interim Program: Basically a soup kitchen
    Hospital Volunteer: About 500 hours
    Elderly Center: get mail and interact with seniors
    Elderly Center+ Hospital Volunteer+ Soup Kitchen= About 530 hours
    Researched in India with my Aunt: Role of Proteins isolated from probiotic microorganisms. . . basically a knowledge gainer, although I learned a lot about the topic itself, I also learned a lot about laboratory procedures.

    Volunteering:
    Teaching Assistant at South Indian Drum School
    Tutoring Students in history, math, and helping them with organizational skills
    Organize ceremonies and concerts at Sunday School
    Volunteered at a museum= about 20 hours

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    1. also looking into UAB

      -- Mani

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    2. Your EC's look pretty good, but your SAT/ACT score needs to be in the 2200/33 range to have a good shot at these programs.

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    3. Check out www.directbsmd.com; they've got some good info that might help you!

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  55. Hi,
    I appreciate this blog a lot. Thanks for all the time you put into it!
    Would appreciate any feed back on where I should apply for a BS/MD program or an EAP program.

    Indian Female
    GPA-3.7 - 3.8 / 4.0 UW
    Rank: School does not rank- probably top 10% at a very competitive University town public school - best school in state.
    SAT: 2000 composite - (M-700, CR-670, W-630)- retaking
    ACT: Taking in October - practice tests indicate a 32
    SAT II: Math II-800, Chem- 670, Taking Biology.
    AP: Chem AP 4, Euro AP--3, French AP 3, Taking Calc BC, English and Bio this year. RELEVANT SCIENCE & MATHEMATICS CLASSES
    Biology Honors ; Chemistry Honors @Northwestern University; Chemistry AP; Physics Honors; Biology AP; Computer Programming; Algebra I, II, Geometry, Trigonometry, Precalculus.

    RESEARCH EXPERIENCE
    2012-Present: Learning the basics of Molecular Biology (Drosophila Melanogaster)
    Also doing research in a university lab on the cellular mechanisms that are responsible for the generation of the neural responses observed in vivo.

    2010-2011: Biomass Energy, a Renewable Energy Source from Food Waste

    2010-2011: Interaction Between Two Epigenetic Modifications in Differentiating Neural Stem Cells
    2009-2010: Epigenetic Modifications: Differentiation in Neural Stem Cells
    2008-2009 and 2010-2011: Phytoremediation of Petroleum Contaminated Soil - Evaluating Different Varieties of Grasses and Trees

    2008-2009: Bioavailability of Calcium: An in Vivo Assessment

    2007-2008: Antioxidants and TEAC: Does Açai Measure Up?

    AWARDS & SCHOLARSHIP
    May, 2012: National Scholars Institute Scholarship - Engineering: Sustainability, Human Health and the Environment
    Belin-Blank Center, The University of Iowa
    2012: Gold Key, The Scholastic Art & Writing Awards of Central and Southern Indiana; Finalist in the National Competition.

    2011: Second Place Nationally and a $25,000 Scholarship - Siemens We Can Change the World award given by the Siemens Foundation, Discovery Education, College Board and NSTA for a Food Waste and Renewable Energy Project

    2011: First Place, Purdue Center for Cancer Research for Epigenetics Research

    2010: First Place, Women in Engineering, Purdue University for Epigenetics Research

    2009: Indiana State Champion, National Runner Up - Siemens We Can Change the World - Phytoremediation of Petroleum Contaminated Soils in Brownfields

    2008: Semifinalist Science Fair at Society for Science & the Public.

    TECHNICAL SKILLS
    Dissecting Drosophila Flies
    DNA Cloning
    DNA Extraction
    Single Molecule Electron Microscopy
    Fluorescence Lifetime Electron Microscopy
    Nuclear Staining Imaging

    CLUBS AND COMMUNITY SERVICE
    President, ECO Club, West Lafayette High School
    Editorial Board and Staff Writer, Student Newsletter Scarlette
    Member, Academic Super Bowl - Science
    Board Member, Clear Blue Clear Green, Greater Lafayette Chamber of Commerce
    Volunteer, UNICEF
    Volunteer, Red Cross
    Member, Students Against Destructive Decisions
    Volunteer, Go Greener Commission, West Lafayette
    Volunteer, Wabash River Enhancement Corporation, Lafayette
    Volunteer, Veterans Home - Just started

    OTHER INTERESTS AND ACTIVITIES
    Varsity Golf Team
    Opera Singer
    Second Violinist - Wabash Valley Youth Symphony Orchestra
    Swimming

    Languages: Fluent in English, Four Years High School French (AP) -Proficient, Elementary Knowledge of Spanish
    Computer Science: Computer Programming - Microsoft Visual Basic

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  56. Hey I am a junior taking AP European history, AP Literature and Composition, Honors precalc, honors spanish 4, and i have the option of taking AP Physics B and a regular art course or AP Statistics and honors physics. I am considering honors physics because in my school AP Physics is really hard and I don't know if I can do well. Also the teacher is hard. any advice?

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    1. I think I may be able to pull off an A- or B+ but it is really hard. If I take honors physics i think i can get A or A+. But i will not have an AP science completed when I apply to college if i do not do AP Physics. however, i do plan on taking ap chem and ap bio senior year. the only AP science my school offers for juniors is AP Physics. Which would be my best bet? i would like to take honors if it doesn't make much of a difference.

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  57. Just curious, if you are still active and responding, did you continue your musical interests with band once in the BS/MD program? I am assuming the programs are too time consuming to keep going with most extra curriculars.

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  58. Hi, I'm currently a junior in high school, and I'd like to apply to some bs/md programs. I could really use some advice on how to improve my chances of getting in. Here are my stats:
    UW GPA: 3.77 (end of junior year)
    W GPA: 4.3
    ACT: 34

    Volunteering:
    50 hours distributing food to the homeless
    150 hours from hospital volunteering
    30 hours working with patients with alzheimer's/dementia
    30 hours tutoring kids in math/science

    Shadowing:
    150 hours...(will probably have around 240 ish by the time I apply)

    EC's
    Founder and president of Pre-med club
    Founder and president of dance club
    Treasurer of model un
    competing member of science olympiad
    5 honors societies (math, science, french, national, and dance)
    classical dance 9 years
    classical vocal training 12 years (I've won a few local competitions)

    Awards:
    i don't have a lot of big science awards, but I've won second place at my school's science fair and second place at regionals

    Research:
    None..This is probably going to be the weak part of my app

    Thanks a ton!! :)

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  59. Hey guys,
    I'm trying to apply for the Northwestern HPME Program what are my chances for getting up to the interview portion. I already got an application. Here are my stats:
    UV GPA: 3.72
    W GPA:4.5
    ACT: 35
    SAT Subject: MathII-800 Biology-800 Chemistry-not out yet

    Volunteering:
    Hospital-146 hrs
    Tutoring-105 hrs

    ECs:
    National Ocean Science Bowl 9th place(current captain of team)
    Physics Bowl Regional Champions
    Science Bowl(Vice president)
    Science Olympiad(One of 6 captains, a few medals)
    Columbia University Science honors Program
    JV tennis(school team had nationally ranked players-insanely hard to make varsity)
    Math Honors Society
    Quiz Bowl team president

    Research: None :(




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  60. Also forgot to mention I am a teen committee member(leadership) for tutoring volunteering.

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